Sniff sniff.... there it is again - the unmistakable odor of batshit... we must be close to Watchtower publications...
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Spiritual manifestations after 1881?
by Splash inwt dec 1880 (no.
6) p. 5 "false christs".
"we have reason for believing that after 1881, there will be wonderful spiritual manifestations.
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My grandson
by James Mixon inus berkeley news center, "young bug enthusiast meets .
his hero, e. wilson.
maybe someone can post it.. i sent this to my other grandkids that are jw.. my grandson is nuts about bugs, lol..
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James Mixon -
What an informative and complimentary writeup they gave. You must all be so proud.
Please, pass my enthusiasm and admiration on to your handsome young scholar.
Funny thing - just this afternoon I found a rather large and aggressive beetle in my garage, so I carefully picked him up (with fingers far away from very big mandibles) and showed the grandkids how he would bite and shake small sticks. I let him go and when the dog bothered him he bit the dog and made him yelp! Fiesty.
An 11year old and an 85 year old, united by curiosity and learning - a truly beautiful picture - I saved it just for the memories of how wonderful it was to be 11 and able to learn from the wise old folks around.
'' Education is not the filling of a bucket, but the lighting of a fire. '' WB Yeats
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Help needed: Written material regarding shunning of DF'd and DA'd individuals
by EdenOne ini would like this to become a permanent thread, because i think there are grounds - at least in europe - to take this matter up to the european court of human rights.
not sure we'll ever get there, but one must start somewhere.
objective: force, by legal means, the watchtower society and the jehovah's witnesses to stop the practice of shunning ex-jehovah's witnesses, on grounds that it constitutes a violation of human rights.. what is needed: all written material ever published by the watchtower society, especially since 1940's, concerning the practice of shunning.
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Lots of good reading in your thread.
Lots of good reading in psycology blogs too -about the harm that is done not only to the shunned but to the shunner as well (guilt, shame, coercion) . Seems shunning is part of the human arsenal for social survival, and admit it or not - we all do it under sometimes amusing and varied circumstances - but never a good vehicle to convey your love, compassion and concern for another human being.
The industrial scale, compulsory, coerced shunning by ignorant bullies is not a personal choice or individual response to a private personal situation -
A generation ago European Jews were publicly shown to be enjoying a beautiful, care free period as the state provided their every need - simple re-education and re-adjustment of their thinking . In a quiet setting, away from all the stress and responsibilities of the rest of society, and their families and friends - it was all for their own good, so, no expense was spared. The gas chambers operated around the clock.
Minions today claim to believe that separating people from family and friends is a charitable, loving and benevolent act, and cast their full support behind the notion, because if they don't, the same WT blessings and love will crush them out of cult existence too
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Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".
by kairos injudicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).
what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?
( for good ).
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As long as you remain a Jw, you are liable to the ecclesial discipline of your chosen cult - period.
Once you have already done something ''wrong'' you cannot escape the discipline by quitting - you will be DF or DA'd by commitee per the cult rules. You have no legal recourse if you don't like the verdict - freedom of religion/separation of church and state - remember you chose the church that loves to shun... nothing illegal here.
Doubting, questioning, disillusionment, disregarding, disobeying, fading, and leaving constitute a cults most agregious moral wrongs (apostasy) , Such attitudes and actions, (though harming no-one), are countered with the cults harshest, most severe punishment - DA or DF.
How can one leave without being DA'd or DF'd ?
By initiating the right circumstances , the right timing and exercising your own free will in doing so.
One right circumstance means that you are in good standing, with no JC imminent.
Using your free will pick the earliest possible date you ceased (past tense) to be a Jw.- before a vacation is good, especially if you didn't turn in your last report of cult activity. You could already be gone for a month, but things still look normal.. The more time that goes by quietly, the more solidly your status is confirmed.
No more records at JWFacts Joe Grundy showed just how extensive the personal record keeping is. Submitting reports ties you to the cults activities as a member and therefore binds you to it's advocacy - including discipline! Without current records, they have no proof of your continuing participation and membership. - a very important issue in avoiding later interrogations or committee actions against you.
Pubic Meetings or Invitation Only is the safest option for those who need to attend for the sake of family. The sign outside says PUBLIC - so no proof of membership or affiliation is implied by attending these meetings. Also attend by invitation since again, no affiliation can be implied.
Keep a Journal - reverse the dynamics of information control. You create and keep the records that establish your freedom, the who, when, were, (but not the why - you never need to explain your free will) .When - ( in writing - and signed) you ceased to be a JW. On the date you chose a month ago, you wrote a heartfelt letter to your non-JW brother/cousin/friend explaining to him why you could not conscientiously continue as a JW. and are no longer one. This letter provides you with dated and signed proof that you had already repudiated the cult and its actions by the date of the letter. A good friend will keep the letter in case your lawyer needs it in the future.
Free Will Conscience trumps dogma in court - this is where the tables turn, and the law supports leavers over cults
Make your new status as a free person known to discreet people you trust, and will support you - provide the cult nothing - no information by any means, that can later be used to acknowledge your continuing acceptance of their advocacy.
Free will and informed conscience trumps religious dogma in court. This is the pivotal issue upon which Freedom of Religion spins from one side to exactly the opposite. The same freedoms that allowed you to freely join a cult and share in it's irrational and absurd works is exactly the same law that enables you to conscientiously repudiate the same organization when later, your knowledge matures. This freedom is enshrined in law in most democracies and is a core value of human rights.
JWs have had no success leaving without incident because they have been going about it ass backwards.
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Yet Another Putdown of Women! – KM March 2015
by SAHS inthis weeks service meeting part (week starting march 23, 2015) in the our kingdom ministry under the heading meetings for field service that accomplish.
their purpose includes a little sub-article entitled when a sister must conduct.
the direct link is: http://www.jw.org/en/publications/kingdom-ministry/ click the little document download button under the one labeled km15 03-e us and then choose a format (pdf looks best)..
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Deplorable Website Promotion
by HBH inmy siblings mother in law died recently, and there was a condolence posted with the borg website.
i googled the name of the poster, and found the same condolence on 100s of funeral home websites!!!
many of these sites dont have mods or a way to report a website promotion.
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'' Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. '' - Voltaire
Tacky beyond disgusting cult - Westboro Baptist imitation..
Leave grieving people alone - just leave them alone you assholes !
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Shutting down the Judicial Committee "invite".
by kairos injudicial committee invitation comes, with be there or be square consequences.. ( come or we will df you ).
what are the sure fire, tested and true tactics that will keep the elders off your back?
( for good ).
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3rd Gen -
You are correct in the direct no nonsense approach.
IF YOU NINTERFERE IN MY LIFE AND FREEDOMS YOU ARE AT GREAT RISK.
And yes you do have freedoms and yes these assholes can be stopped.
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.sucks going on the market soon
by JakeM2012 inbelow is the article on yahoo financial news, about .sucks.
i wonder if someone will buy jworg.sucks?
just a thought.. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/here-comes-verizon-sucks--but-will-it-help-or-hurt-the-company-205605195.html.
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I predict that WT,GB, Jah, Inc. will think the $2500.00 of JW contributions will be a very cheap price indeed .
After purchasing said site, they will close it to comments and voila, minions now living can never complain.
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JW Cartoon Cult gets it wrong AGAIN!
minions? - yep, never die? - delusional propaganda
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How to raise awareness about child abuse.
by DATA-DOG inhere's an idea.
we know the wtbts fears exposure more than anything.
so what if we made an organized, concerted effort to contact every celebrity jw that we can think of?
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Are ex-dub celebrities shunned, discredited and separated from their families like everyone else or are they given a free pass because they are wealthy, famous and highly visible?